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Some of you morons ought to watch it...instead of Mike Moores fantasy films.
 

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I caught the first half hour of it. He's the man. 2008! It's time to play the demi's game and that is being RUTHLESS. Bush is loyal and effective but Rudy has the ability to turn it up a notch and get down and dirty with the demis. Something Kevin Garnett has not been able to do in a playoff game in his whole career.
 

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As a VP candidate in the (R) party, maybe.

Guilliani - McCain would be a tough ticket to beat.
 

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So do you think that by 2008, Rudy will still be banging the same whore that he cheated on his wife with? Or will he have dumped her and moved onto some younger trim?

Family Values...gotta love Republicans who aren't shy about their adultery. He'd probably run better on a ticket with Newt Gingrich, now that I think about it.
 

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Ah, Rudy, our former mayor. Another draftdodging chickenhawk. His claim to fame was busting a bunch of over-the-hill wiseguys when he was a Fed. He knew he couldn't beat Hillary, hope his ass is alright now.

Semper Fi,

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Maybe the entire population of the USA should join the military and go fight arabs. Would that make Lt Dan happy?

Also don't these victims relatives have anything else better to do than walk around look for the nearest camera and hold up pictures of their relatives? Yes it was a tragedy. But I do not remember telethons for the Oklahoma state bombing victims, I do not remember ridiculous hearings 2 1/2 years later about that attack. Take your $ and move on with your lives and stop annoying the shit out of everyone to the point that we find ytou annoying rather than sympathetic.

Save all of your bleeding heart responses.

People die everyday in this country and in many others across the world. People have their own problems ,after 2 1/2 years we care about our own problems , keep your problems and grief to yourself.
 

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Giulliani was a has been until 9-11. Since then he has made the most of simply being in the right spot at the right time. Then going to every big Yankee game with his police-fireman hat like he really has ever done anything that they have. Total loser, I really hope he somehow gets the nomination in 2008.


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Jersey,

I lost a cousin,a brother-in-law and several friends in the WTC attack. Isn't it ironic that the cowards who are sending our brave young men & women to fight their bogus War On Terror were the same people that did the MOST to avoid duty years ago. In my world, the one thing that matters is respect. Rudy will never have my respect!

Semper Fi,

Lt. Dan

p.s. let me guess, another young lad who is going to make his mark in the world by pissing your future away by gambling?
 

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Guiliani is most touted for 'cleaning up NYC'...and many valid examples can be shown of how NYC is safer to live in, at least in terms of being robbed or murdered...or how more areas of the city can be traversed safely than before.

But my friends who live there provide stark, harsh realities of how these accomplishments came at the expense of having the Constitution utterly $hit on by Guiliani and the NYPD.

Those who trade supposed security for liberty will be sure to have neither.
 

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NEW YORK - Outraged relatives of World Trade Center victims heckled former Mayor Rudolph Giuliani on Wednesday as their hopes that he would be grilled by the Sept. 11 commission faded in the face of gentle questioning and effusive praise from panel members.

"My son was murdered because of your incompetence!" shouted Sally Regenhard, whose firefighter son died in the trade center. Seated three rows behind Giuliani, she jabbed her finger at the former mayor and waved a sign that read "Fiction" as he gave the city's emergency response a glowing review.

Giuliani finished his testimony and abruptly left the auditorium minutes later, upsetting family members who said they received few answers. Monica Gabrielle, who lost her husband, Richard, called it a "lost opportunity."

"This was not a time for Rudy Giuliani to talk about all the great things he did on 9/11," she said. "He can save that for his talking tours. He should have told us what went wrong and what we should do now."

The acrimonious hearing brought together the mayor, who became a symbol of heroism for his steady response to the attack, and the activist relatives who have become a voice of dissent over his administration's emergency planning and response.

Their complaints have been supported by a growing mass of critical findings on gaps in command, control and communications among New York's agencies in charge of emergency response.

The anger directed at Giuliani came on the second and final day of hearings in New York by the Sept. 11 commission, created by Congress last year to investigate the attacks and advise the country on ways to avoid future attacks. The hearings resume in Washington on June 8-9 and the final report is due July 26.

The commission released two reports that mark the most comprehensive probe to date of New York's response on Sept 11. The findings detailed a list of failings including poor communication, gulfs in cooperation between police and firefighters and grave deficiencies in the city's 911 emergency telephone network.

The report led to an aggressive interrogation of Giuliani's top fire, police and emergency management officials Tuesday, with Republican appointee John F. Lehman, a former Navy secretary under President Reagan, calling the failings "a scandal" and "not worthy of the Boy Scouts."

Komo TV.
 

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Mr. NJsports,

He is a draft-dodging chickenhawk because he sent those boys into the WTC to die without him ever having to save someone from death in a similar fashion.

I especially like the response from the woman who placed the culpability of her son's murder on Giuliani not the hi-jackers. Even with precision training and them making all the right decisions he might have still died. Then who do you blame?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> But my friends who live there provide stark, harsh realities of how these accomplishments came at the expense of having the Constitution utterly $hit on by Guiliani and the NYPD. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is hope for you yet, barman. The Constitution has been $hit on virtually since inception and it is nice to see it being noticed by others.
 

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There's plenty of people across the USA who live by and respect the Constitution, so yes, there is hope.

And I agree with your wry observation about the broad who is ragging on RG, saying, "You murdered my son because you weren't prepared (for an airplane to fly into middle of Manhattan and thru a building)."

VERY WEAK...There's plenty of reasons to criticize RG, but that lady is delusional at best.
 
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So instead of sending in firemen and policemen lets have the mayor head into the building to save everyone. 1st let him head into a phone booth and change to his Superman outfit.
 

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I agree, its all the fault of the fire and police dept,they should have planned for just such an attack , stood by while the buildings burned and said "hell, its to dangerous to go in , they might fall down" and guliani should have known that his depts. sucked and bush and the cia should have known that terrorists would probably fly planes into both trade centers, and the military should have had planes everywhere ready to blast civilian airplanes out of the sky. THANK GOD we have the 911 commision to sort it all out!
 

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Wow...Barman finally agreed with common sense thinking ....maybe the world will be ok.

Lt. Dan, you lost some "cred" saying the war of terror is bogus. I hope you were meaning the "war in Iraq" is bogus and we could cuss and discuss that. The war on terror is very real, wouldn't you agree ? If you don't think we should be overseas dealing with terrorist in different areas of the world, then you have morphed into the dreaded "chickenhawk".
 

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Mr. Devil,

The war on terror is bogus. Major security lapses and poor leadership led to 9/11. Even Junior should be able to remedy future threats. You cannot fight a war on many fronts, just ask Hitler & Napoleon. The US is the MOST hated nation in the world and as long as we continue to be the policemen of the universe then we will be targets for terror. The war on terror is just a PNAC tactic to justify global domination and better opportunities for the evil to profiteer. As long as we back Israel and their terrorist policies we will be targets for every radical Moslem group throughout the world.

Semper Fi,

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There is no way I am disagreeing with you on that Israel comment.

I think we were hated way before the war on terror and we did not fire the first shot in that war.

If the USA wanted to profit from this war we would just go invade places and take their oil.
 

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NJS: If the USA wanted to profit from this war we would just go invade places and take their oil.

BAR: I'm not sure even that is possible in the 21st century.

Sure, we have more than enough military might to go into a country and 'take over the oil fields', but we don't have enough military to do that without exposing ourselves to continued and perpetual casualties. That doesn't sound profitable to me.

Not to mention that given that one sentence scenario, we would likely be violating most all international agreements about invading sovereign nations, so we would be doing it without much support at all from other countries, except maybe England.


Oh my, I think I just described Iraq 2004!

oops
 

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